Mad Sweeney

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  Wow, this bit of info surprised even me!!!

  by LeKook in

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  i just spoke to a witness friend (has been a witness 25+ years), who said that the elders in her congregation told her that witnesses had better be prepared to begin going door to door, not to announce "good news", but to denounce people who refuse to accept "the trvth".

  has anyone else heard about this?

  i thought it was a joke at first, but she said no, that's where the elders told her things were headed.

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  i was just thinking ...you remember that tract from i think 2007? said "the end of false religion is near"?

  It was from 2006, half a decade ago and counting. "Soon" and "near" don't mean what they think they mean.
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  FRAUD: Class-Action Lawsuit Agains the WTBTS

  by 00DAD in

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  i searched the indexes of jwn and found a number of older threads on the subject of class action lawsuits against the wtbts for a number of things such as: fraud, breach of contract, emotional duress, pain and suffering, etc.

  most of the threads are fairly old.

  does anyone know if any serious attempts at this have ever been made by a qualified lawyer and/or firm?

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  What do you think the viability would be of a suit brought by a group of people who lost family members to the blood doctrine? Slightly better chances? Or still pretty much no chance? (this is of course assuming those bringing the suit have the money to pay for representation)
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  Hurricane Irene heading for the WT HQ

  by trailerfitter in

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  interesting as we are watching on the tv in the uk about how new york is having some areas evacuted.

  wonder who is praying for the wt building gets flooded out by storm surge?.

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  If it hits them, they will say Satan controls the weather and attacked them.

  If it misses them, they will say Jehovah controls the weather and protected them.

  They have their bases covered.
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  Has anyone's entire family come out together?

  by LittleMac in

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  The Borg tries to break up families but it doesn't always succeed.

  Sept 10 Cult Free Radio will be on this topic.
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  Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity (JW Speak)

  by Perry in

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  the sokal affair.

  the paper, transgressing the boundaries: towards a transformative hermeneutics of quantum gravity, was published in science wars in 1996. on the day of publication, sokal announced (in a different paper,) that the article was a hoax.

  he said that social text was a pastiche of left-wing cant, fawning references, grandiose quotations, and outright nonsense.

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  I think if the point was being made by a non-theist, this thread could have become a good discussion about the strengths and weaknesses of the current system of research and publication. A basic research methods class will teach you that the system is flawed and that hoaxes get through occasionally and crap gets through regularly, but as has been mentioned the system of scientific inquiry is in place to KEEP QUESTIONING (unlike religious dogma) and eventually the crap gets exposed or simply left by the wayside kind of like Borg "old light."

  Have there been any cases of science fraud that have killed as many people as, for example, the Watchtower blood doctrine has?
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  I am so sad to pass this news along to you about our Dear Sacrificial Loon

  by BabaYaga in

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  i just heard from his brother that he has passed.

  several of you know that he has been fighting cancer for a while now.. oh, sac!

  i am so very sorry you have left this world... rest in peace, joy, and light... your fight, suffering, and fears are put to rest.. strength and love to all who love you.. .

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  Sad to hear this. Thanks for letting us know, Baba. Condolences to his family.
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  Getting rid of the Book Study - a way to isolate the JW?

  by skeeter1 in

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  the book study meeting was cancelled a while back.

  the watch tower said that it was to provide for a family study night and high gas costs.

  hmmm.. i thought about the cancellation of the book study meeting after listening to another pastor discus his mega-churchs dependence on small circle groups.

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  It also takes away the ability of individual conscious elders to teach their groups reason and help them develop a real conscience. Now the book study is done in front of the entire congregation, I believe on a rotating basis. The one-on-one leadership is gone.
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  Why So Many Young People Are Leaving The Watchtower

  by Jeremy C in

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  i have been giving a lot of thought to the young people who are leaving the watchtower organization in recent years.

  last night, i was reading the thread posted by jwfacts a while back in which he provided some statistics and graphs showing the rapidly declining growth in the watchtower.

  one factor that was discussed at length was the high number of young people who do not stay in the organization.

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  in-name-only JWs

  I prefer the term: JW in name only, with the acronym: J-Winos

  Jeremy, great thread. To check your PMs, you have to check them twice. The first time doesn't work. If you go back to them a second time, the message will usually open. Sometimes it takes a third try. Eventually they open up for you. Also, if using IE9, you may try compatibility mode.
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  Freshly dead JWs were NOT living "in the time of the end"!

  by Nathan Natas in

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  i picked this thought up elsewhere, and it's been worming its way through my brain.... a friend of a friend was notified not long ago that one of his jw peers since childhood had died.

  in itself, this is not too remarkable, because these guys are now into thier 60s, and mortality certainly does begin to raise its ugly head at about that time in one's life: either your friends die and leave you, or you die and leave them.. but the question came up, "can we say that roger, personally, was living "in the time of the end" if the end didn't come while he was alive?".

  it seems obvious that poor dead roger was not living in the time of the end.. the question that flows from this is, "am _i_, personally, living in the "time of the end"?.

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  Discussion? what's that?

  by PSacramento in

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  fyi:.

  http://cdn.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/flowchart-to-determine-if-youre-having-a-rational-discussion-e1300206446831-634x882.jpg.

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  I like this.